Small Group Sessions October 25, 2002

This dialogue was between Chris and friends, and the Spirit group that arranged for the October 25th channneling we titled The United States Becomes Accountable. This was some of the conversation that continued following their message.

OVER ALL THE YEARS OF TALKING WITH YOU, YOU HAVE NEVER PUT THE FOCUS ON THINGS LIKE A SECRET GOVERNMENT OR THE POWERS BEHIND THE SCENES, ETC. I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHY THAT IS, YET HERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE IVORY TOWERS AND THE PRIVILEGED FEW WHO WANT TO MAINTAIN CONTROL. I ASSUME THEY DO EXIST, AND ALTHOUGH SOME PEOPLE SEE CONSPIRACY IN EVERYTHING, I DO NOTICE THAT I FIND MYSELF TRUSTING THE “OFFICIAL” VERSION OF THINGS LESS AND LESS. SO WHEN AN EVENT HAPPENS LIKE THE SNIPER ON THE EAST COAST OR THE CRASHING OF PAUL WELLSTONE’S PLANE, MY MIND SOMETIMES DOES TAKE A LEAP TO OKAY, WHAT’S SOMEBODY TRYING TO DO? IS THAT POTENTIALLY TOO BIG OF A DISTRACTION TO BE THINKING ABOUT THINGS THAT WAY OR IS IT SOMETHING SURFACING?

Well, both. In some ways it can be a distraction, particularly if your mind begins to become highly suspicious and based in a sort of fear or questioning of everything. Because there is within the whole of unfolding consciousness within the earth that which is also being opened and shifted, orchestrated by the life-force itself. So there are events that happen that are called forth through the shift of consciousness. You call it forth, do you understand? It is not some secret government making it happen.

You are calling it forth, and in that process you become more conscious of some of the manipulation and the power, control, and the monies, etc. that are doing their very best to maintain that control. We’ve never denied that they exist. We only have not focused upon them. If your focus is there and you do not have an ability to remain in a sort of neutral place within the larger awareness, then you can get sucked in. There is a certain propensity within that thoughtform to become very suspicious, questioning, and cynical, and not have enough perspective or awareness within that configuration of consciousness to dance with it all. You will find that people who have conspiracy theories will not always be able to embrace the whole. That is one reason we have not done so before, because so many people have not yet grown to that place. It is now coming, you are calling it forth, and it will largely find its own way into consciousness through vehicles that will bring it forward in ways that are not just about suspicion and pointing fingers, but breaking open in ways that will be undeniable to those who need a certain amount of proof to believe anything. Some of that will eventually need to happen.

AS I WATCHED TELEVISION AND SAW SOME OF THE MANY INTERVIEWS WITH PEOPLE WHO WERE AFFECTED BY THE DEATH OF SENATOR WELLSTONE, I DID REALLY BECOME AWARE OF HOW MANY WERE TALKING ABOUT SPEAKING UP AND STANDING FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN, AND OTHER QUALITIES THAT WERE REFLECTIONS OF THE SENATOR. IT SEEMED PRETTY INTERESTING TO ME WHAT HAPPENED WHEN A DUALITY EXISTED AND THEN ONE OF THE POLES WAS SUDDENLY REMOVED. I COULDN’T HELP THINKING THAT IT REALLY WAS AN EFFECTING EVENT, HOWEVER SUCH THINGS ARE ORCHESTRATED.

By agreement, of course……………

WHAT ABOUT THE SNIPER, THE WAR, AND PEOPLE LOSING IT AND SHOOTING UP PEOPLE AND ALL THESE EVENTS THAT TAKE OUR ATTENTION. ARE THEY ORCHESTRATED TO KEEP US DISTRACTED?

You are calling it forth. Look at the fear that has lived in the consciousness. It has to create itself in form.

SO IT HAS TO COME OUT

Yes. So here is someone who has certain angers and certain separation from life and heart and an ability to reason in that way, and who finds a certain pleasure in the power of controlling so many people’s fear. Having that power, so to speak. Individuals may have alliances with certain principles or beliefs, or sympathies with certain groups. They may even have certain vulnerabilities that allow them to be manipulated. But at the same time, who’s calling it forth? If you’re going to point to a secret government and say they are to blame, then that is not all the truth, any of it.

The collective has allowed a secrecy to live within itself. It has abdicated that place within itself that says I am sovereign, I am able to make choices, I am responsible for my own creation. They’ve largely abdicated it, given it away, and then there have been those who have said okay, we’ll take that, thank you very much for giving it to us. Do you see? It is why we never point to a secret government and say give it all your attention and make them the bad guys. Do you understand? That is too easy. It defers duality into another side trip. It’s not the case. Yes, it exists. WHY does it exist? Why does the collective allow it to exist? Why did you create it?

IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE HAVE CREATED SOME OF THESE THINGS TO CREATE THIS SHIFT?

Yes, to activate. In some ways, the capacity of people when challenged emotionally is to either go deeper into that place of self-awareness and self-wisdom, or to externalize to an even greater degree and say it is all outside of me. The sniper experience, the bombing experience in Bali, that pulls people out. The loss of this one today [Wellstone] will pull people in.

WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH MANY TIMES WHERE THERE HAS BEEN AN EVENT LIKE THE DEATH OF JFK, OR PRINCESS DIANA, AND PEOPLE HAVE THIS SHARED EMOTION OF GRIEF OR LOSS. TODAY IT SEEMS DIFFERENT AS THOSE THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT ARE COMING TOGETHER FROM THE WELLSTONE DEATH. THEN THERE WAS THE SNIPER; I DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT I’M SUPPOSED TO FEEL FROM THAT EVENT.

Yes, to activate. In some ways, the capacity of people when challenged emotionally is to either go deeper into that place of self-awareness and self-wisdom, or to externalize to an even greater degree and say it is all outside of me. The sniper experience, the bombing experience in Bali, that pulls people out. The loss of this one today [Wellstone] will pull people in.

HOW DOES THE ENERGY OF SUCH AN EVENT AFFECT SOMEONE LIKE GEORGE BUSH? OBVIOUSLY THERE IS SOME KIND OF POWER THING INSIDE OF HIM THAT IS STRUGGLING, TOO.

Yes. Struggle. There are many people struggling with this, and will. Good.

I WAS THINKING EARLIER THAT THERE IS A SORT OF CURIOUS PARADOX THAT THIS OPENING IS CREATING SOME POSSIBILITIES. YOU TALK ABOUT HOW THE COLLECTIVE, CONSCIOUSNESS, IS CALLING THINGS FORTH. IN ORDER TO MAKE SENSE OF THAT, ONE ALSO HAS TO SHIFT TO THE LARGER VIEW THAT ALSO CAN UNDERSTAND COLLECTIVE RESPONSIBILITY.

Yes.

WELL, I’M ALWAYS AMAZED THAT IT HAPPENS AT ALL, ACTUALLY. IT SEEMS THAT TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B, YOU HAVE TO ALREADY BE AT POINT B. HOW DO WE HAVE A REALIZATION WITHOUT HAVING THE REALIZATION?

Sometimes there needs to be assistance. We have for many years framed things in a certain way. Your mind has considered them, and this frame has assisted you to perceive in a way you might not have without some assistance along the way to create a certain frame of perspective. That frame of perspective continuously evolves and changes, and is informed by your own wisdom and your own informing nature. But, you and others have been informed. Do you understand? Formed within a sort of descending light within consciousness. Now you are the ones who are giving and putting out the frames of perspective that others may need. ‘Have you considered looking at it this way’, etc.

I WAS RECENTLY GIVEN A BOOK THAT DISCUSSES A TECHNIQUE OF USING KINESEOLOGY TO MEASURE CONSCIOUSNESS ON A NUMERICAL SCALE. THE MEASURE OF 1000 WAS SAID TO BE THE POINT AT WHICH NO ENLIGHTENED BEING ON EARTH HAS EVER SURPASSED. I WAS A BIT PUT OFF BY THE AUTHOR USING HIS OWN STATEMENT OF A HIGH RATING AS A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE BOOK, IMPLYING THAT GREAT TRUTHS EXIST THEREIN. I AM FAMILIAR WITH USING KINESEOLOGY FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF TESTING USING THE BODY AS A MEASURING TOOL, BUT STILL IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE IS SOME KIND OF INTELLECTUAL TRAP IN THIS SYSTEM WHICH LEADS ME TO ASK ABOUT HOW VALID IT IS.

There is an intellectual trap and there is a physical trap. Frequency can only be measured within a certain range in the physical at this point. If you are using a body, it has a range of frequency that can be measured, but it is also limited from what is possible to be accessed directly or indirectly through the cosmos, the field of all possibility. So, we smile. It’s very human-like to measure everything, to put it into a measurable, tangible, ‘this is the way it is’ kind of way, and now we have a system and this system is the one to go by, and everyone is then measured accordingly. It is human-like to want to do something like that, but it is far from complete. Perhaps it is assisting to some who need to come through a particular system of proof to begin to entertain possibilities of other perspectives and other awarenesses. That would be fine. That has happened through religion, that has happened through science, and through many different vehicles before. It is not necessary to say it is not valid, but it is perhaps necessary to say it is not complete.

IT SEEMS LIKE I HAVE FEWER AND FEWER QUESTIONS THESE DAYS.

Perhaps that is why this one is channeling less (laughter).

THINGS JUST SEEM TO PROCEED THESE DAYS……..

Well, you ones have more in-for-mation. You are more informed directly. That is what has been the intention all along.

YES, COCREATORS.

I HAVE A QUESTION THAT IS PERHAPS ASKING FOR A SNEAK PEEK AT WHAT MAY OCCUR FOR A MUSICAN FRIEND OF MINE AS WELL AS OTHER CREATIVE PEOPLE WHO SEEM TO HAVE HAD DIFFICULTY HAVING THEIR VOICES HEARD OR BEING SUPPORTED FOR THE GIFTS THEY HAVE TO SHARE……

There are those whose gifts have been unable to be fully realized until a certain level of consciousness and awareness are realized, opened and contributed into the whole, and the ways are made more and more clear. There has been a dominance, as you all know very well, that has limited the amount and the quality of expression because of those who would maintain the vehicles of distribution of music, books, products, etc., so that in a sense people have only been able to contribute if there was a certain compromise along the way. Authors will tell you of books that have been mangled and rewritten by those who publish them. Artists or those who are musicans are often not able to thrive because their works are not received. So there are many gifts that have been limited in their ability to be shared, expressed, and brought forward.

However, the pathways are opening for those now who wish to maintain integrity within their own being, their own heart, their own gifts, to share them without that quality control that comes down from a dominant consciousness, and whose gifts, voices, and contributions can serve this greater shift of consciousness within the collective.

HOW MIGHT THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE MEDIA CHANGE IN THE COMING YEARS?

It will become more and more direct, person to person, group to group, just as the word of mouth through the internet can bring about a surge of response, there can be more and more of that quality of interconnectedness and direct sharing of the gifts that wish to be shared. There is also more and more a sense of community forming amongst those that share the gifts that come from these levels of consciousness. The community used to be rather small at that level of those who were the authors who could afford to fly to different places to be on the dockets of the different conferences, and that little traveling group formed a community. But it wasn’t widespread and open. That is shifting, and as people become more aware of their own authority to create their own experience and their own gifts to share into the whole, and as more and more convergences happen and are initiated and activated into the widespread birth of potential and the ability to share that, perhaps even now currencies that would allow people to share without needing to be so dependant on the dollar. There is then an encouragement to share.

THAT’S ALSO WHAT I HAVE ENVISIONED, BUT THEN I THINK OF THE PEER-TO-PEER SHARING NETWORKS ON THE INTERNET AND HOW DOGGEDLY THEY ARE BEING CHALLENGED BY THOSE WISHING TO RETAIN CONTROL, EVEN EXTENDING TO THE ATTEMPTS TO MAKE LAWS THAT ALLOW COMPANIES TO HACK INTO PERSONAL COMPUTERS AND DISABLE FILES. I’M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT……..

In your collective you have birthed a whole generation that is so incredibly technologically tuned that any attempts to do that will very quickly be undermined or a way will be found around it. Some young genius somewhere will very soon probably create a different way to bring sort of universal access and availability to these kinds of sharing through a medium that will probably very quickly catch on because of the younger people and their desire to have open sharing. They don’t want to be controlled, and they have a lot of things to share. They were born bursting!

PERHAPS I’M SPEAKING AS AN EARLIER GENERATION OF TECKIE, BUT I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GIVES ME A TRUE SENSE OF SATISFACTION IS WATCHING HOW THE YOUNG TECKIE PEOPLE GET AROUND THE CONTROLS. I LOVE SEEING WHAT GETS CREATED.

Their minds are always opening to what is next and what could be a way to create this in a way that would link up more people more freely and with greater ease. There are many young musicians and artists that are being encouraged by their peers to share their gift on the internet. Almost as if they have a free audience waiting for what might be shared. Then they share and someone else is inspired and they actually start to create music with people around the world. Of course, that is fun. They are playing. There is a certain playground feeling within the whole of it, and among these young people it is the joy they share in that play. You can’t play all by yourself very easily, do you see? So they like that.

They are also more conscious, however, of their greater responsibility to the earth, to the environment, to each other. They are less controlled consciously to believe that they are powerless and have to give all their power to an authority beyond them in order to get what they need for life. They don’t have that experience.

HALLELUJAH!

Yes.